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This is becoming a lot of fun, and since
I've been trapped in my annoyingly quite
little town for the past two weeks it comes
as a welcome distraction. So, why not do
another one? I apologize if it hurts your
eyes...it
is a bit bright.
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::: puttin' on my sun goggles ::::
Beautifully bright, Jim! I think this has
turned out spectacular !!
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Jim I love the font you used and how you did
each one is so neat. Could you elaborate on
how you got the effect on the word
luminosity I would love to try
that?...colorful but not too bright I love
what you did...Jim turned sideways like that
is cool but so are they all.
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Jim looks great at least I think so hard to
tell had to quickly put some dark sunglasses
on :o) 
Love Spirit

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Super neon signs, very well done Jim.
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It's amazing what you did with the letters,
Jim. How did you turn them side wise? Would
you tell?
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Thanks everyone.
I'll make a few screen-shots to show the
"luminosity" and turning the letters
sideways, because I think it
would be easier to show you than it would
for me to try to explain. I'm not on my
computer right now, but
I'll get them up, hopefully, later tonight.
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OK, first the easy one, turning the letters
sideways. You can just use the perspective
function on the
transform tool, but I don't like the way it
looks sometimes so I do it the old fashioned
way.
The truth is I just grabbed the handles on
the "distort" function of the Transform tool
and dragged them
until it looked right. That's the easy
explanation, but my friend John Thrasher
(who was head of the art department at my
university) would have a fit if he knew I
didn't go through all of the theory behind
how I knew where to drag them so:
You can make lay out lines as a guide by
using your paint as object mode, then when
they are no longer needed just delete them.
I used the name Lilly because I have a
"grandchild" named Lillian---she's not my
actual relative but I took
in her and her mother when they were in
trouble once so she's an honorary
granddaughter. Maybe her
mother can use the image for her
scrapbook...and besides, with all of the
upright straight letters it was easy to work
with.
First you have to imagine where the ground
in your image is, I used the blue line to
represent it. That is
where the ground would be if you were
looking at the picture like you were in it.
OK, we have the ground, now we need to know
where the horizon is. The horizon in a
picture is just like
t is in your back yard, it is the farthest
point you can see. I marked it with the
yellow line.
Now is when it gets tricky. You need to find
where the "vanishing point" is. The
vanishing point is an
imaginary point that on the horizon, if you
look down the side of the object it will
point to the vanishing
point. To find it you need your word (or
object) which I had turned off when I made
the lines going to the point (sorry).
The lines running diagonally from the red
dot (vanishing point) are the sight lines.
if you pick a point along
the horizon (red dot) and then run lines
from the top and bottom of your word (or
object) to the point you
will see the angle your word needs to be at. I hope that's clear, it's the
best description I can think of.
Now using your transform tool (distort) you
can drag the handles until the word matches
the lines you've
made and the word should look sideways.
The real problem comes when you realize your
horizon, vanishing point, and sometimes even
the ground
lines can be off of the screen...I outlined
where the actual screen would be on this
word in red dots. The second image is what
you'd see on the screen. But not to worry,
as long as you have the memory you can
expand the canvas to ridiculous sizes, draw
your lines, make your word, and then crop to
the proper size...ain't technology great!
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Now if you want some thickness to make it
look really 3D you can do basically the same
thing going the
other way. You pick a vanishing point going
the other way (about equal distance from the
center usually)
and draw your lines going to that point.
At this point I duplicated the word as an
easy cheat. I changed the color to gray and
using the distort
feature of the transform tool I moved it
back and fit it to my vanishing point lines.
When I was happy I
used the object tool with the Bezier curve
setting and connected the two using the 3D
trim setting.
It's a little work, but it makes a good
looking image.
I'll get the "luminosity" one up soon...but
it's basically this technique just using
song funky settings with the objects and
transparency.
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ggrannyrose wrote: Could you
elaborate on how you got the effect on the
word luminosity I would love
to try that?. Me too - pretty pleeease...
And I don't quite see what you mean by using
the bezier tool to connect the 2 sets of
letters. Did you draw several shapes for
each letter? Sorry if this is more than you
want to be bothered with
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OK, now the Luminosity one (which I
misspelled on the first image...arrgh).
I skewed it so that it looked like it leaned
forward and is coming at you slightly. The
font is Enview BTW.
I duplicated and resized the copy along the
vanishing lines shooting it up and away.
Next I used the object tool--with the Bezier
setting--and connected the letters one
section at a time...
I went to my Easy Pallet and under Material
Attribute I chose Glass G18...then under
Material--Gel G13. Once I did that it
defaulted to 3D round but I changed it back
to 3D trim...then I adjusted the
Transparency of each section to my liking
leaving it so I could see the previous
section a little.
Where the letters curved I followed the
curve, where they were straight I kept it
flat...pretty simple really.
The sections that run along the tops of the letters I left a little more
opaque just to add some "glow."
Finally I eliminated the word on the back
that I connected it to in order to give t a
more light like feel.
One quick tip, it helped me to move the word
in the foreground to the top layer after
each new object.
When I didn't it got pretty confusing pretty
quickly.
I hope this helps, if I didn't explain
anything clearly enough feel free to ask me
to clarify things.
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Sorry, I guess I should have been more
clear. The head of our English dept always
introduced me to
people as "this is Jim, he's a great writer
because his mind doesn't think in straight
lines." I think it was a compliment,
but regardless, I do sometimes get into my
own world and just assume others can decode
me.

So, yes, each section was done separately.
You have to look pretty close, but I left
the Bezier tool in edit mode and took this
screen shot. You can see there were already
two sections done. I marked them with arrows
as well as the edit mode lines.
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It does get kind of labor intensive as you
can see from the layer manager shot here.
This is after I deleted
the lay lines, if you look at the object
numbers you can see it was a bit
complicated.
It was fun copying the layers and pasting
them in the new image composite because it
puts them in one at
a time and you can watch all you've done
recreated in high speed. Pretty cool.
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*Rosalie Note: Please save your
work frequently when you try this!
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ohhhh good golly. We all gotta PLAY with
this and give it a shot! yes yes
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WOW Jim thank you so much for writing out
all the details on this I really really
appreciate you doing all
this as I just couldn't quite see how you
did this. I needed the word 2 times and
missed a lot of other stuff
so will try doing it now. I just didn't have
the knowledge you gave in detail here. Again
THANK YOU sweetie.

I will add what I was doing so you can see
why I asked..good for a laugh I totally get
it now.
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